It’s interesting that the Carlson story is the top story on the Observer – Even ranking higher than the Regan story. There’s probably a lot of schadenfreud building around Carlson because his show’s existence doesn’t really makes sense. It’s hard to understand the rationale for it. Low ratings etc. So people are probably both jealous and baffled.
The opposition is so desperate – they look at those Olberman crumbs like gold buillion.
“But have you ever noticed that they always blame HRC for things that were done to her. It’s weird.”
It’s not weird.
I’ve just spent the last hour reading an old leftish blogospheric meltdown, in which HTML Mencken makes some interesting points about Over Involved IDentity Politics (see here if you care, but it’s probably not worth the pain to follow that link). Many examples of OIIDP croped up in that meltdown, and even in response to his post. Lots of people saying nonsense that amounts to ‘sexism is the cause of all evil,’ though a few said ‘racism is…’. Given the content of HTML’s post this is sadly, predictable. A speaker of contemporary american english would probably call it ‘ironic.’
This digression was probably unnecessary, but just know that I’m aware of the dangers of what I’m about to say.
This (HRC’s foes’ behavior) is a classic example of the patriarchy in action.
First, there’s the classic blame-the-victim strategy that those in power so often deploy against members of marginalized groups. Second, there’s the not-so-subtle misogyny in a lot of her foes’ rhetoric. Third, there’s the fact that HRC’s (public) foes are mostly male ‘gate-keepers’ and she is (it unfortunately must be said) a woman. Finally, there’s the intended audience: the audience. This may seem obvious, but these types of attacks on HRC aren’t intended to be heard by her, they’re intended to influence the rest of us. OK, fine, that’s the game of politics, but also that’s how the blame-the-victim strategy functions in every other situation it’s deployed: not merely to keep the victim down, but more to keep her compatriots down.
Rereading this post, I realize I’ve probably violated the generally subtle tone of this site, and it’s entirely possible that Comment was saying what I just said without saying it. But sometimes I can’t quite tell, and I feel the need for a little direct clarity tonight. Apologies.
It’s interesting how Tweety’s mind leaps in incredulous ways – It was not a natural leap to think HRC’s dismissal of a very bogus sounding small bore health care intitiative as part of campaign to hog credit – That’s the mind of a Clinton hater, not a Clinton critic, at work – HRC haters make all these fantastical leaps when discussing HRC. They fuse their own dark fantasies on to her. It’s really bizarre. Comment has never been a HRC fan – But we have always been amazed by her ability to agitate foes. HRC has probably led a more conservative life than Tweety. But have you ever noticed that they always blame HRC for things that were done to her. It’s weird.
The Dems could surely put together a well-produced substantive debate and post the video on YouTube. It could be as long as they want it to be, and posted in sections, maybe even diced up and grouped by topic with all candidates allowed to respond to every question.
They could probably get Jeremy Paxman to moderate, which would be awesome. While he might have a preference of candidates, it’d be somewhat detached and he probably isn’t part of the DC cocktail party circuit.
“… Aboard a recent shuttle flight to Washington, [Chris] Matthews spotted New York Sen. Hillary Clinton. Earlier in the day, he’d been complaining privately that, as first lady, she’d rejected a health-care plan that would allow nurses to give care to public school students because it was “too narrow-bore.”
“In other words, ‘I’m not going to get enough credit for this,’ ” Matthews told a colleague in the cafeteria of MSNBC headquarters in North Jersey. “Madonna won’t get flowers brought to her. I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for.”
~Peter Nicholas
Philadelphia Inquirer
June 3, 2001
~
Here’s a poem Conrad can sample from to create a good yard rap tune:
On came the whirlwind – like the last
But the fiercest sweep of tempest blast –
On came the whirlwind – steel gleams broke
Like lighting through the rolling smoke (Yo!) …
Three hundred cannon mouths roar’d loud
And from their throats with flash and cloud
Their showers of iron threw
Beneath their fire, in full career
Rush’d on the ponderous cuirassier
The lancer couched his ruthless spear …
In one dark torrent broad and strong
The advancing onset roll’d along
~Sir Walter Scott, Waterloo
One advantage Conrad will have over other inmates if he starts his own gang is he can use various insignia – well tested stuff – from UK heritage for his tats. A royal lion lengthwise on each arm. Indeed , he might be able to use his own crest -The Latin Lords might challange him early on – but he can just remind them of Gloriana sinking the Spanish fleet and then trace Spain’s weaker resulting empire to their current situation.
Hopefully he’s working on his bench press. He should start his own gang – The Lords of The Realm – And start Rapping – Don’t Cross wid Crossharbour! Beyotch! . Then maybe Lady Black wiil to redecorate the conjugal rooms as a gesture of good faith to the warden. Doc, we have to work on that rap.
Do you think it would be possible for someone to quiz Romney over the particulars of his Mormon theology during a debate by linking the question to Russert questioning Kucinic about UFOs? Afterall, this Russert question was a religious question, indirectly – because he brought in that actress who believs in reincarnation.
Ofcourse it would be inappropriate and in bad faith to quiz Romney on his faith – in particular the parts that talk about space and planets and becoming a god – But it would be just as justified, if you squint, as the Russert UFO question because there is some surface commonality.
Never saw that movie – Wasn’t there a librarian in the Longest Yard? That’s the only jail movie we can really think of – But since the incarceration community has exploded in size there’s probably a host of possiblities. He may get a commutation for all we know. Doubtful, but not impossible.
Conrad would probably prefer to see his Warhol price rise a bit more than get a delay in sentance. Part of the Black story – is that he is a personage, not just a person. But if he goes to a jail he may become forgotten – He would rather be loathed. But he could disappear into the vastness of the American incarceration community. Maybe he could try to romance the idea a bit like Nixon did when he speculated about doing his best writing in jail. But what if Black is sent to a jail that , for one reason or another, does not lend itself to writing and contemplation? He needs a place that is not quite a country club, but also not a really tough place. But above all – he needs a library. Anything less than 1000 volumns would be unbearable.
I see Edwards more as a televangelist. I’ve noticed for awhile that HRC has a that comforting Carol Brady/Shirley Partridge look going on. I thought Dennis did very well, for Dennis.
We think it is unfortate that Edwards has been caricatured in such a way obscures what should be an interesting life story – But he does things just grate – strange hand gestures like that half-thumbs up extended at the end of a stiff arm. Then there is the transactional smile – like the one he flashed when Kucinic referred to him being a trial lawyer. After seven years with Bush and his flaring nostrils, scrunching cranium, and simian rictus, all we want is a normal presence, a grown up aspect.
HRC won the debate along these lines –
Poor Joe Biden doesn’t understand why Republicans cooperate with him. His dumb “plan to end the war” did nothing except make him more hate in Iraq than Gee Dubs is. We bet a poll would vindicate that.
Poor Joe – always struggling to raise those LSAT scores – but always looking for approval from those who didn’t have to take Kaplan.
Why know questions about Barry Bonds – A good cable reporter should have been able to figure out a way to ask a dumb Bonds question in thin-guise of race issues, biochemistry, selective prosecution, the Bonds-Scooter [Libby not Rizzuto] similarity, baseball heritage, and Richardson’s own baseball record.
Edwards is taking on the neocons? Too little too weak too late. Dan Pipes isn’t gonna worry about the Edwards machine (“isn’t Elizabeth amazing???”) rolling to victory anytime soon.
All in all – a good night for the Movement. It’s just really strange to see this happen right at the end of a failed Presidency, yet no one can seem to articulate what went wrong and what is to be done.
Edwards would be great as a foil for that informational guy – What’s that guy’s name? Not Don Lapre, but the other guy. He’s always selling things like vitamins etc.
Though we object to Russert making gratuious cracks at Kucinic because we think he does it for the wrong reasons – He wants to be ‘serious’ and so has marginalize an anti war candidate as a freak – That being said – though we object to Russert doing, we would have exempted ourselves – We would not have been able to resist a dumb crack at Dennis re his illegal alien objection “You only object to calling them aliens, because you want to rally them as earthlings.” –
Comment says
It’s interesting that the Carlson story is the top story on the Observer – Even ranking higher than the Regan story. There’s probably a lot of schadenfreud building around Carlson because his show’s existence doesn’t really makes sense. It’s hard to understand the rationale for it. Low ratings etc. So people are probably both jealous and baffled.
The opposition is so desperate – they look at those Olberman crumbs like gold buillion.
Dr.LeoStrauss says
Tucker’s days may be numbered?
http://www.observer.com/2007/msnbc-hedges-carlsons-future
cato90025 says
Hi–
Had to place an order–but the design used could easily be misconstrued–by the casual observer–and put me in the camp of the Hegelians of the right.
I assume if this occurs that all special and general damages will be handled promptly by your carrier–ha ha.
Need a bolder design graphic easier to read and one that crystallizes or is asymptotic to the essence of this wickedly good anti-neocon site,
Hunter says
“But have you ever noticed that they always blame HRC for things that were done to her. It’s weird.”
It’s not weird.
I’ve just spent the last hour reading an old leftish blogospheric meltdown, in which HTML Mencken makes some interesting points about Over Involved IDentity Politics (see here if you care, but it’s probably not worth the pain to follow that link). Many examples of OIIDP croped up in that meltdown, and even in response to his post. Lots of people saying nonsense that amounts to ‘sexism is the cause of all evil,’ though a few said ‘racism is…’. Given the content of HTML’s post this is sadly, predictable. A speaker of contemporary american english would probably call it ‘ironic.’
This digression was probably unnecessary, but just know that I’m aware of the dangers of what I’m about to say.
This (HRC’s foes’ behavior) is a classic example of the patriarchy in action.
First, there’s the classic blame-the-victim strategy that those in power so often deploy against members of marginalized groups. Second, there’s the not-so-subtle misogyny in a lot of her foes’ rhetoric. Third, there’s the fact that HRC’s (public) foes are mostly male ‘gate-keepers’ and she is (it unfortunately must be said) a woman. Finally, there’s the intended audience: the audience. This may seem obvious, but these types of attacks on HRC aren’t intended to be heard by her, they’re intended to influence the rest of us. OK, fine, that’s the game of politics, but also that’s how the blame-the-victim strategy functions in every other situation it’s deployed: not merely to keep the victim down, but more to keep her compatriots down.
Rereading this post, I realize I’ve probably violated the generally subtle tone of this site, and it’s entirely possible that Comment was saying what I just said without saying it. But sometimes I can’t quite tell, and I feel the need for a little direct clarity tonight. Apologies.
Comment says
It’s interesting how Tweety’s mind leaps in incredulous ways – It was not a natural leap to think HRC’s dismissal of a very bogus sounding small bore health care intitiative as part of campaign to hog credit – That’s the mind of a Clinton hater, not a Clinton critic, at work – HRC haters make all these fantastical leaps when discussing HRC. They fuse their own dark fantasies on to her. It’s really bizarre. Comment has never been a HRC fan – But we have always been amazed by her ability to agitate foes. HRC has probably led a more conservative life than Tweety. But have you ever noticed that they always blame HRC for things that were done to her. It’s weird.
Comment says
Paxman would probably ask some uncomfortable questions about the Iraq war and Iran – Too risky.
Jon H says
Why do they even bother with the networks?
The Dems could surely put together a well-produced substantive debate and post the video on YouTube. It could be as long as they want it to be, and posted in sections, maybe even diced up and grouped by topic with all candidates allowed to respond to every question.
They could probably get Jeremy Paxman to moderate, which would be awesome. While he might have a preference of candidates, it’d be somewhat detached and he probably isn’t part of the DC cocktail party circuit.
A Random Quote says
“… Aboard a recent shuttle flight to Washington, [Chris] Matthews spotted New York Sen. Hillary Clinton. Earlier in the day, he’d been complaining privately that, as first lady, she’d rejected a health-care plan that would allow nurses to give care to public school students because it was “too narrow-bore.”
“In other words, ‘I’m not going to get enough credit for this,’ ” Matthews told a colleague in the cafeteria of MSNBC headquarters in North Jersey. “Madonna won’t get flowers brought to her. I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for.”
~Peter Nicholas
Philadelphia Inquirer
June 3, 2001
~
Comment says
Here’s a poem Conrad can sample from to create a good yard rap tune:
On came the whirlwind – like the last
But the fiercest sweep of tempest blast –
On came the whirlwind – steel gleams broke
Like lighting through the rolling smoke (Yo!) …
Three hundred cannon mouths roar’d loud
And from their throats with flash and cloud
Their showers of iron threw
Beneath their fire, in full career
Rush’d on the ponderous cuirassier
The lancer couched his ruthless spear …
In one dark torrent broad and strong
The advancing onset roll’d along
~Sir Walter Scott, Waterloo
Comment says
One advantage Conrad will have over other inmates if he starts his own gang is he can use various insignia – well tested stuff – from UK heritage for his tats. A royal lion lengthwise on each arm. Indeed , he might be able to use his own crest -The Latin Lords might challange him early on – but he can just remind them of Gloriana sinking the Spanish fleet and then trace Spain’s weaker resulting empire to their current situation.
Comment says
Hopefully he’s working on his bench press. He should start his own gang – The Lords of The Realm – And start Rapping – Don’t Cross wid Crossharbour! Beyotch! . Then maybe Lady Black wiil to redecorate the conjugal rooms as a gesture of good faith to the warden. Doc, we have to work on that rap.
Alex says
But since the incarceration community has exploded in size there’s probably a host of possiblities.
Crawling out through the sewers is unlikely; Conrad Black has exploded in size over the passing years.
Comment says
Do you think it would be possible for someone to quiz Romney over the particulars of his Mormon theology during a debate by linking the question to Russert questioning Kucinic about UFOs? Afterall, this Russert question was a religious question, indirectly – because he brought in that actress who believs in reincarnation.
Ofcourse it would be inappropriate and in bad faith to quiz Romney on his faith – in particular the parts that talk about space and planets and becoming a god – But it would be just as justified, if you squint, as the Russert UFO question because there is some surface commonality.
Comment says
Never saw that movie – Wasn’t there a librarian in the Longest Yard? That’s the only jail movie we can really think of – But since the incarceration community has exploded in size there’s probably a host of possiblities. He may get a commutation for all we know. Doubtful, but not impossible.
Aldershot says
Maybe he can be the librarian like the guy in The Shawshank Redemption…maybe he can crawl through a quarter-mile of sewer to freedom.
Comment says
Excuse all the typos above – that would really grate him – To be described in typos. Such carelessness.
Comment says
Conrad would probably prefer to see his Warhol price rise a bit more than get a delay in sentance. Part of the Black story – is that he is a personage, not just a person. But if he goes to a jail he may become forgotten – He would rather be loathed. But he could disappear into the vastness of the American incarceration community. Maybe he could try to romance the idea a bit like Nixon did when he speculated about doing his best writing in jail. But what if Black is sent to a jail that , for one reason or another, does not lend itself to writing and contemplation? He needs a place that is not quite a country club, but also not a really tough place. But above all – he needs a library. Anything less than 1000 volumns would be unbearable.
Comment says
We see Conrad has had a fortuitious delay in sentance – somthing strangely inevitable seeming about that.
Aldershot says
I see Edwards more as a televangelist. I’ve noticed for awhile that HRC has a that comforting Carol Brady/Shirley Partridge look going on. I thought Dennis did very well, for Dennis.
Comment says
We think it is unfortate that Edwards has been caricatured in such a way obscures what should be an interesting life story – But he does things just grate – strange hand gestures like that half-thumbs up extended at the end of a stiff arm. Then there is the transactional smile – like the one he flashed when Kucinic referred to him being a trial lawyer. After seven years with Bush and his flaring nostrils, scrunching cranium, and simian rictus, all we want is a normal presence, a grown up aspect.
HRC won the debate along these lines –
Poor Joe Biden doesn’t understand why Republicans cooperate with him. His dumb “plan to end the war” did nothing except make him more hate in Iraq than Gee Dubs is. We bet a poll would vindicate that.
Poor Joe – always struggling to raise those LSAT scores – but always looking for approval from those who didn’t have to take Kaplan.
Comment says
Why know questions about Barry Bonds – A good cable reporter should have been able to figure out a way to ask a dumb Bonds question in thin-guise of race issues, biochemistry, selective prosecution, the Bonds-Scooter [Libby not Rizzuto] similarity, baseball heritage, and Richardson’s own baseball record.
Edwards is taking on the neocons? Too little too weak too late. Dan Pipes isn’t gonna worry about the Edwards machine (“isn’t Elizabeth amazing???”) rolling to victory anytime soon.
All in all – a good night for the Movement. It’s just really strange to see this happen right at the end of a failed Presidency, yet no one can seem to articulate what went wrong and what is to be done.
Comment says
Edwards would be great as a foil for that informational guy – What’s that guy’s name? Not Don Lapre, but the other guy. He’s always selling things like vitamins etc.
Though we object to Russert making gratuious cracks at Kucinic because we think he does it for the wrong reasons – He wants to be ‘serious’ and so has marginalize an anti war candidate as a freak – That being said – though we object to Russert doing, we would have exempted ourselves – We would not have been able to resist a dumb crack at Dennis re his illegal alien objection “You only object to calling them aliens, because you want to rally them as earthlings.” –
Dr Leo Strauss says
Can someone explain why Edwards is even on stage? Shouldn’t he be running an informmerical at 3:00 AM on TLC?